Translation of church signs criticized/Beschilderungsübersetzung kritisiert

Aus dem Lokalteil der FAZ vom 1.9: amerikanischer Pfarrer kritisiert britische Übersetzung der Beschilderung der Alten Nikolaikirche in Frankfurt (ich habe es nur auf Papier, konnte es nicht online finden).

This is so familiar!

This article appeared in the local section of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on September 1st. Theoretically it should be possible to buy it online, but I couldn’t find it.

The office for historical monuments – Denkmalamt – ordered British English translations of over 120 signs at the Alte Nikolaikirche on the Römerberg in Frankfurt am Main.

The parish priest, an American, Jeffrey Myers, wrote a letter of complaint, criticizing the German as well as the English, if I understand it right. He regretted that he and his church community had not been consulted, and said the English was rather wooden, and rather strange in parts. Getreidelager was translated as corn store (BE where wheat is stored, AmE where maize is sold). (Excellent English site of the church community).

Here is one example. I think the translator has done a really good job, whoever she was (apologies for any errors in dates, as the fax I have is not easy to read):

Alte Nikolaikirche
|Evangelische Pfarrkirche|Protestant Parish Church|

|Saalkirche um|1150|Hall church|

|Umbau zur gotischen|0|Structural alteration to|
|Hallenkirche um|1290|Gothic hall church about|

|Ergänzung von spätgotischer|1459-1467|Late Gothic roof gallery|
|Dachgalerie und|0|and tower storeys|
|Turmgeschossen|0|added|
|Baumeister H.v.Eich||Master builder H.v.Eich|

|Profanierung und Nutzung als|1530|Profanation and use as|
|Magazin und Getreidelager|0|warehouse and corn store|

|Gotisierende|1859|Gothicized rehabilitation|
|Wiederherstellung unter|0|under|
|Stadtbaumeister|0|municipal architect|
|J.F.Christian Hess|0|J.F.Christian Hess|

|Wiederherstellung|1951|Reconstruction|
|nach Kriegszerstörung|0|after wartime destruction|
|Portalplastik des|0|Portal sculpture of the|
|13. Jahrhunderts erhalten|0|13th century preserved|

Denkmalamt Frankfurt am Main

Not all translators would translate in this way. If I had been doing it, I would not have used the technically correct words profanation and rehabilitation: I would have gone for secularization and restoration. Incidentally, the OED says that rehabilitation meaning the restoration of church rights is archaic. I might even have written wheat, for the sake of any American tourists who think Frankfurt was surrounded by maizefields in 1530 – after all, they can’t help being ignorant. It’s unfortunate that the word about was not dropped by 1290: it doesn’t work unless the date is to the right of it. But it looks as if a lot of thought and work has gone into these signs. Good work by Andrea Hampel, who heads the Denkmalamt.

I know from my own experience how mean a reception translations get from people who regard a building as their life’s work, and it’s a difficult case where there is an English-speaking person, especially one who is a native speaker, attached to the church who has spent years describing it to others. These signs exist for the benefit of the public, not the local native speaker (I hasten to say that I have seen only one sign and am in no position to judge this situation except from the newspaper article).

Gherkins, wallies / Gurken

I see Des of Desbladet (see September 3rd, Puntnings, Gherkins and Wald) went for a punt trip in the Spreewald area and tried some Spreewaldgurken, which he calls gherkins. (Does he realize that’s the Sorb area?)

Well, I’m sure they are correctly called gherkins. But at home I thought of gherkins as these, which the Germans call Cornichons:

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(Note the curious German word Kanuten for people in canoes – canoists?)
We only ever encountered the big ones in fish and chips shops, where they were called wallies, and where they still are called wallies, as I was able to confirm recently. But apparently it’s a Cockney term.

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Those chips were better than they look. Incidentally, nearly all Germans believe you can’t eat fish and chips off a plate but have to have newspaper.

The other term I encountered for these was pickled cucumbers, which is a term used in Jewish cooking, as far as I can tell – there are many different types.

Finally, here are the pickle shelves in a not particularly big German supermarket.

sauerk2w.jpg

saurk1w.jpg

It sounds as if wallies were named after the brand name.

Machine-translated legal notice / Maschinenübersetztes Impressum

The Landesmedienzentrum Baden-Württemberg (Baden-Württemberg Media Centre) website has been drawn to my attention.

This excellent example of the authorities at work was posted on the pt mailing list at Yahoo Groups by John Hayduska, who has a nice website. I’m particularly taken with the vertical green bar at the left, but on its own it would be nothing.

Its Impressum has been translated into English by a machine, not without some human help:

bq. All rights lie with the Landesmedienzentrum Baden-Württemberg. As far as in the individual case in a different way regulated and untill foreign laws are not concerned, the spreading of the documents lying on this server is desired as a whole or in parts of it in electronic and printed form under the condition that the source (Landesmedienzentrum Baden-Württemberg) and the URL are named. Without previous written approval by the LMZ a commercial spreading of the documents lying on this server is strictly prohibited.

Here’s the URL, to do what is requested:

http://emac.pi-consult.info/emac/index.php

The French pages look better in part.

Blogger in local paper/Deutscher Weblogger in englischer Zeitung

Armin Grewe is German, lives in Swindon and blogs. His blog, Ministry of Propaganda, has been featured in his local paper – see a scan on the blog.

Here is a page on Armin’s other websites, which include a list of ‘expatriate’ bloggers (try to avoid the eggcorn ‘ex-patriot’).

Sometimes I get the impression Armin would rather be living in Scotland. – I am trying not to think too much about the fact that he has a new D70.